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  • Jun. 25th, 2008 at 1:22 PM
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Miss Andrea's: Deconstructing Transgenderism (part 1)

And since these folks insist they’re not swapping out genitalia for mastabatory fetish purposes, there too is no need to accessorize oneself with the preferred genitalia of their romantic partner unless they’re also prepared to reverse the surgery again, when they meet someone new who wants yet different genitals to play with.

Here again, the crying girl bats her tear-stained bits, and we are supposed to expose our monster hearts because we have a fucking brain and she doesn’t. Suppose it’s also time to admit that I personally don’t care one way or the other what she chooses to do with her body, but the blowback will continue in earnest until she gets a clue that as a permanent member of the respectable third gender, she has no right to speak on behalf of real women — for when they refer to themselves as “real women”, that is exactly the practical result.

Part 2:

It is impossible to argue that transgenderism holds no negative repercussions for real women, yet most feminists are blatantly refusing to even consider the existence of these negatives. Instead, they label any disagreement as a “transphobia”, entirely forgetting that claiming something is phobic can only be valid if the criticism is actually addressed, and proven to be wrong. As such, the charge of “transphobia” becomes nothing more then a manipulation doublespeak technique intended to silence.

There are two major tactics the trans supporters use; one is the stupid crying girl as a pity shield and the other is the charge that we are “transphobic”. We are not supposed to notice that they never actually refute any of our accusations. Instead, we’re supposed to be overcome with sympathy for one and insulted into silence by the other. Surely we’re not cruel enough to ignore the crying girl, are we? Surely this lack of pity indicates some sort of phobia against an entire class of people, doesn’t it? Um, how ’bout they answer the criticisms which are never answered?

Deflecting our criticisms with aspersions upon our character is an ad hominem attack writ large. When your entire argument rests upon insults, you’ve lost the debate. When your entire argument is “look at the tear-stained face”, you never had an argument to begin with. When your entire argument presupposes an assumption which you never bothered to prove, — child, you are a fucking fool.


Response from Cara at The Curvature: On Feminism and Transphobia

I don’t think that most feminists need to hear this. It seems that a majority of feminists now reject transphobia, at least in theory. But I’m astonished, saddened and outraged that it needs to be said at all. I remember in college, I took a class called Sex, Gender and Social Relations. One of the topics was transgender identity, and one of the texts we read (of which the professor was critical) was by Janice Raymond, I’m pretty sure a chapter from her infamous book attempting to illegitimize transgender identity and whose arguments seem to be a continued basis for transphobic “feminism.” I was still at the beginning of my process of feminist awakening (though at the time I’m sure I thought I was very advanced), and at a total infancy in my understanding of transgender issues. This was, in fact, the first time I had ever dealt with transgender issues in an in depth way. And I wrote an essay ripping Raymond’s thesis too shreds, getting an excellent grade as I remember, and thinking that this bullshit written in the late 70s must be long gone. By that I mean, it had to be gone in feminist circles, since we’re all so so very socially and intellectually advanced. The naivety makes me laugh bitterly, now. If you told me then that I’d be writing about similar modern “feminist” views a few years later, I would have stared at you slack jawed.

This isn’t feminism, and it’s not feminist disagreement. Transphobia is prejudice and hate, and I’m not going to give it pass based on age, ignorance, fear, understandable distrust of men (something I personally struggle with) or repeated use of the word “patriarchy.” These excuses don’t fly. We need to stop allowing transphobia to be shrugged off as somehow defensible from a feminist standpoint.

If we refuse to actively reject this shit as feminism, refuse to stop linking to it, we are a part of the problem. I’m astonished by the number of comments on that post which praise the writer, insist on using incorrect pronouns for transgender people, and portray transwomen as misogynistic fetishists. I’m made physically fucking ill by it. And I can’t watch it being linked to in a general roundup of feminist thought and just shut up about it. None of us should be able to.

Fellow feminists, I beg you to stop this fucking nonsense. Just stop it.
 

Comments

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[info]serenejournal wrote:
Jun. 25th, 2008 05:54 pm (UTC)
Thank you for including Cara's response. Miss Andrea's disgusting worldview made me want to hit something.
[info]hopeforyou wrote:
Jun. 25th, 2008 06:25 pm (UTC)
And since these folks insist they’re not swapping out genitalia for mastabatory fetish purposes, there too is no need to accessorize oneself with the preferred genitalia of their romantic partner unless they’re also prepared to reverse the surgery again, when they meet someone new who wants yet different genitals to play with.

She just has no fucking clue, does she? I mean... really.

*boggles*
[info]lysana wrote:
Jun. 25th, 2008 08:24 pm (UTC)
Indeed. If it were that simple, there are many bisexual/pansexual people who'd be very happy to go through that on a schedule similar to getting their hair done. And that's only touching on the practical impossibility of the swap.
[info]weirdodragoncat wrote:
Jun. 25th, 2008 07:51 pm (UTC)
good gods, WTF is this 'real women' shit?? I always hate it when people say that. If *I'm* going to make a differential reference, I'd refer to non-trans women as genetically female (unless thats not good either? is there a non-offensive term?)
(Anonymous) wrote:
Jun. 25th, 2008 11:58 pm (UTC)
Two options generally used are "cisgender" and "gender normative." I use cisgender, or "cis," like "trans" for short.

--Cara (the one who wrote the linked post above)
[info]weirdodragoncat wrote:
Jun. 26th, 2008 12:02 am (UTC)
hmmm...I don't know what cisgender means exactly and I don't like 'gender normative' cause that implies that the trans person is somehow not 'normative' and that bugs me.
(Anonymous) wrote:
Jun. 26th, 2008 01:13 am (UTC)
I'm not personally nuts about gender-normative, either, for the same reason, which is why I use cis. But there is a big difference between the words "normative" and "normal," and I did just so happen to coincidentally be told this very week by a person who is really active in the LGBT movement that it's a growing term. At its most basic, cisgender means "not transgender," but here's the wiki page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender). It's the term I see used most often in all of the trans and trans ally blogs that I read.

--Cara
[info]weirdodragoncat wrote:
Jun. 26th, 2008 02:03 am (UTC)
ahhh....ok. Now that I know what the term refers to, I think I'd be ok with using that term...much more so than 'gender-normative' anyway.
[info]fluffthebunny wrote:
Jun. 26th, 2008 02:16 am (UTC)
Yeah, "cisgender" is a term I tend to stick to, although I must admit I sometimes refer to non-trans-folks as "muggles."

:)
[info]somepatches wrote:
Jul. 24th, 2008 07:03 pm (UTC)
genetic won't even work out, because probably many CAIS (complete androgen insensitivity syndrome) women won't notice the difference at all or not until late in their lifes, despite having *XY* chromosomes - just as m2f people, too.
[info]mon462 wrote:
Jun. 25th, 2008 09:34 pm (UTC)
Jeez! I'm just stunned and speechless.
[info]osakadensetsu wrote:
Jun. 25th, 2008 10:02 pm (UTC)
Ow.Brains.

The critique by Cara is good at least. Hopefully more people read that than the bigotry spat out by Miss Andrea.
[info]terry_terrible wrote:
Jun. 25th, 2008 10:15 pm (UTC)
No, you should just stop reading shitty self-righteous first waver blogs. ;)
[info]fluffthebunny wrote:
Jun. 26th, 2008 11:12 am (UTC)
Well, here's the thing... Miss Andrea's vitriolic rant was included as part of a normally-well-respected blog-carnival: Carnival of Feminists. Miss Andrea's thing was part of the latest edition, hosted here.

I am pleased to report that after a firestorm of protests yesterday, the link was removed from Carnival of Feminists.


(Anonymous) wrote:
Jun. 26th, 2008 02:02 am (UTC)
Thanks for the comment over at The Blog and the Bullet, much appreciated. I hate that shit.

-Jack Stephens http://www.mustardseedblog.com
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